Contact Email List
FAQ  •  Register  •  Login

Laminova Cored Intercoolers (Home Brew 2. GQ TD 42 )

Moderators: toaddog, TWISTY, V8Patrol, Moderators

<<

coxy321

User avatar

Posts: 4330

Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:06 pm

Location: Central Victoria

Post Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:55 pm

Laminova v1.2

I like.

:D
<<

matt.mcinnes

User avatar

Posts: 1590

Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:07 pm

Location: Tarneit, Vic

Post Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:24 pm

coxy321 wrote:Laminova v1.2

I like.

:D


Tks, I'm very happy with the results, ease of maintenance access for removing the rocker cover, far simpler than Marins to manufacture. No flange to remove to access the rocker cover, simple machining of the manifold for integration. Quite a lot of people have enquired about Marins but it was really never going to be cost effective to manufacture.

This however will only be $500 more than the bolt on.
<<

marin

User avatar

Posts: 942

Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:41 pm

Location: All Mav'ed up!!! (Melbourne)

Post Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:30 pm

matt.mcinnes wrote:
coxy321 wrote:Laminova v1.2

I like.

:D


Tks, I'm very happy with the results, ease of maintenance access for removing the rocker cover, far simpler than Marins to manufacture. No flange to remove to access the rocker cover, simple machining of the manifold for integration. Quite a lot of people have enquired about Marins but it was really never going to be cost effective to manufacture.

This however will only be $500 more than the bolt on.


Hmmmm and I was just thinking on the way home that I need to check my tappets.... maybe I can have a revised cooler, and this original can sit on your shelf as "The Original"??? of course it would be a swap :P

Wonder how Heble is going in this rain ROFL
Rum injected

TD42T shorty... got some bolt on and some custom stuff.

Read about it here!
<<

matt.mcinnes

User avatar

Posts: 1590

Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:07 pm

Location: Tarneit, Vic

Post Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:12 pm

marin wrote:
matt.mcinnes wrote:
coxy321 wrote:Laminova v1.2

I like.

:D


Tks, I'm very happy with the results, ease of maintenance access for removing the rocker cover, far simpler than Marins to manufacture. No flange to remove to access the rocker cover, simple machining of the manifold for integration. Quite a lot of people have enquired about Marins but it was really never going to be cost effective to manufacture.

This however will only be $500 more than the bolt on.


Hmmmm and I was just thinking on the way home that I need to check my tappets.... maybe I can have a revised cooler, and this original can sit on your shelf as "The Original"??? of course it would be a swap :P

Wonder how Heble is going in this rain ROFL


Yours is fully flowed and we won't making another like that for under $3000.

As for Hebble I put the Bikini Top on for him, this issues is can he put the power down in the rain in the 40

Turning into a GU parking lot here with the 40 as a loner :D
<<

matt.mcinnes

User avatar

Posts: 1590

Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:07 pm

Location: Tarneit, Vic

Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:23 pm

Making a run of 10 in the new version pm me if your interested in one.
<<

turbodave

User avatar

Posts: 79

Joined: Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:37 pm

Location: Sunshine Coast - QLD

Post Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:25 pm

Very nice! Excellent work. What price are we looking at for these?
<<

matt.mcinnes

User avatar

Posts: 1590

Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:07 pm

Location: Tarneit, Vic

Post Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:30 am

turbodave wrote:Very nice! Excellent work. What price are we looking at for these?


$1500
Last edited by matt.mcinnes on Wed May 05, 2010 12:05 am, edited 1 time in total.
<<

matt.mcinnes

User avatar

Posts: 1590

Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:07 pm

Location: Tarneit, Vic

Post Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:31 am

Couple of pics of it installed tks to Clint.

Image

Image

Have one left in stock too.
<<

tna racing

User avatar

Posts: 4607

Joined: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:11 pm

Location: yallourn north,victoria

Post Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:46 am

thats the salty mobile :finger:

looking good
1993 Gq lwb with added xtra's :) sold
fj60,lifted,35s,33s for daily, 3f power!
<<

Rhysta

User avatar

Posts: 314

Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:02 pm

Location: Ferntree Gully. Melbourne.

Post Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:17 pm

So is Marins the highest HP diesel you currently have this running on?
<<

tna racing

User avatar

Posts: 4607

Joined: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:11 pm

Location: yallourn north,victoria

Post Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:34 pm

clints is a weapon, would think its got more than marins.......

bigger turbo etc etc
1993 Gq lwb with added xtra's :) sold
fj60,lifted,35s,33s for daily, 3f power!
<<

Rhysta

User avatar

Posts: 314

Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:02 pm

Location: Ferntree Gully. Melbourne.

Post Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:48 pm

Yeah, just wondering how the cooler is keeping up with temps with the new pump etc.

I have driven bens and it goes well, wasnt sure if his was the only dsl with over 100rwkw running the cooler.
<<

matt.mcinnes

User avatar

Posts: 1590

Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:07 pm

Location: Tarneit, Vic

Post Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:04 pm

Marin makes 140rwkw on 35's and 4.11 diffs @ 23psi
Clint makes 166 on 35's and 4.6 diffs @ 30 psi

Both are at the limits of the heat exchanger not the intercooler.
<<

Rhysta

User avatar

Posts: 314

Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:02 pm

Location: Ferntree Gully. Melbourne.

Post Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:20 pm

matt.mcinnes wrote:Marin makes 140rwkw on 35's and 4.11 diffs @ 23psi
Clint makes 166 on 35's and 4.6 diffs @ 30 psi

Both are at the limits of the heat exchanger not the intercooler.


Yeah thought that might have been the case.

Have you thought of running a reservoir Matt to try increase water volume?

Or would it not be worth while for the extra volume for the time and space taken up?

Rhys
<<

rosscotd105wa

User avatar

Posts: 28

Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:16 am

Location: Perth

Post Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:12 pm

I'll also put my hand up for that question Matt.

Have wondered about the ability of a larger volume of water to 'help absorb' some of the heat when under load, which can then be 'cooled' when not under load (if that makes sense?).

Cheers, and keep up the great work.
HZJ105TD Made to be used.
<<

matt.mcinnes

User avatar

Posts: 1590

Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:07 pm

Location: Tarneit, Vic

Post Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:06 am

Larger Volume of water helps yes.

The bigger the hear exchanger the better too.

All comes down to horses for courses.

Best Solution is a huge ass heat exchanger on the rear tray out of the mud, but functionality is not always quite so easy.

So it's a little give and take.
<<

matt.mcinnes

User avatar

Posts: 1590

Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:07 pm

Location: Tarneit, Vic

Post Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:43 pm

Both Marin and Busman's GQ intercoolers max'd the standard pump out and coped with the work load, EGT's were much lower and both had very good power and torque gains to boot.

The pump upgraded GU and Marin's both work well but do suffer heat soak eventually. This is due the the very high efficiency of the intercooler. But you are pushing really hard to do that. EGT's come up faster but that's more the result of pushing greater power than the intercooler not coping.

For a stock GU or GQ with a TD set up the results are excellent Hebbles GU will shortly be on the Dyno I believe, but he already has max'd the fuel pump out and has lower EGT's.
<<

GUJohnno

User avatar

Posts: 1931

Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2003 10:29 am

Location: Everything 4WD, 86 Camms Rd Cranbourne

Post Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:57 pm

Top stuff mate!
My club
www.vfwdc.com
My store
Everything 4WD
86 Camms Road Cranbourne
www.everything4wd.com.au
sales@everything4wd.com.au
Phone: 03 59955055
<<

+dj_hansen+

User avatar

Posts: 2186

Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:11 pm

Location: Melbourne, now with 1HDFTi power!

Post Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:15 pm

Following some quite extensive discussions on LCOOL... next step would be to look at oil temp matt ;) From my readings, EGT is not the be all and end all. More important is the ability of the IC to remove intake charge heat (which clearly the laminova is good at), which reduces the amount of heat that can be transferred into the pistons/block coupled with the heat created by combustion.

Consider the can of worms opened..... :shock:
Cheers,
Dan.

1996 HDJ80R
<<

its aford not a nissan

User avatar

Posts: 1152

Joined: Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:25 pm

Location: the most livable planet in the universe

Post Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:59 pm

been thinking about an insulator between the intake manifold and the head to reduce heatsoak to the intake manifold , there would have to be gains there aswell wouldnt there ??
<<

love ke70

Posts: 1040

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:57 pm

Location: yatala, halfway between brisbane and GC

Post Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:21 pm

+dj_hansen+ wrote:Following some quite extensive discussions on LCOOL... next step would be to look at oil temp matt ;) From my readings, EGT is not the be all and end all. More important is the ability of the IC to remove intake charge heat (which clearly the laminova is good at), which reduces the amount of heat that can be transferred into the pistons/block coupled with the heat created by combustion.

Consider the can of worms opened..... :shock:


but oil needs to be maintained at a certain temp, most oil coolers run a thermostat to make this happen, and are usually capable of keeping the oil temps in check, even on track days...
97 GQ patrol coilcab. TD42, safari turbo kit with fiddled turbo, D-GAS kit. dyno results to come...
4inch lift, king springs, efs and procomp shocks
315/70R16 cooper ST's
found fuel economy...
<<

marin

User avatar

Posts: 942

Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:41 pm

Location: All Mav'ed up!!! (Melbourne)

Post Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:27 pm

its aford not a nissan wrote:been thinking about an insulator between the intake manifold and the head to reduce heatsoak to the intake manifold , there would have to be gains there aswell wouldnt there ??


Have looked into getting a phenolic spacer laser cut... but not part of the budget atm, would need to get a small run cut to make it cost effective, then would have to sell them etc etc... cauz I think mine suffers from heatsoak a little with the excessive boost.

Next trial when money allows.... aircon gas :)
Rum injected

TD42T shorty... got some bolt on and some custom stuff.

Read about it here!
<<

matt.mcinnes

User avatar

Posts: 1590

Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:07 pm

Location: Tarneit, Vic

Post Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:16 pm

:shock:

Image
<<

Dezza80

Posts: 20

Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:57 am

Location: Wandering, WA

Post Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:11 pm

Matt,

How do you think one of these I/C would go in an all out race truck running 25psi most of the time reving hard, racing up river beds and in thick heavy mud, Outback challenge style racing aswell as your usual winch challenge and general offroad racing.

I was thinking of ditching my A/A i/cooler and moving the radiator to the tray, so i can run a LARGE heat exchanger and also have room to run my winch further back into the body (in an attempt to gain more approach angle)
<<

matt.mcinnes

User avatar

Posts: 1590

Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:07 pm

Location: Tarneit, Vic

Post Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:35 pm

Dezza80 wrote:Matt,

How do you think one of these I/C would go in an all out race truck running 25psi most of the time reving hard, racing up river beds and in thick heavy mud, Outback challenge style racing aswell as your usual winch challenge and general offroad racing.

I was thinking of ditching my A/A i/cooler and moving the radiator to the tray, so i can run a LARGE heat exchanger and also have room to run my winch further back into the body (in an attempt to gain more approach angle)


Works a treat in mine at Comp..

Image
<<

coxy321

User avatar

Posts: 4330

Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:06 pm

Location: Central Victoria

Post Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:53 am

marin wrote:Next trial when money allows.... aircon gas :)

Whats the plan here Ben? Are you going to try and set it up as a water replacement, or to help keep the water cool? Sounds like an interesting concept - i'd be keen on some sort of data in relation to how much power the A/C compressor suck too.
<<

marin

User avatar

Posts: 942

Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:41 pm

Location: All Mav'ed up!!! (Melbourne)

Post Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:20 am

coxy321 wrote:
marin wrote:Next trial when money allows.... aircon gas :)

Whats the plan here Ben? Are you going to try and set it up as a water replacement, or to help keep the water cool? Sounds like an interesting concept - i'd be keen on some sort of data in relation to how much power the A/C compressor suck too.


Plan was to run it as a replacement....
Rum injected

TD42T shorty... got some bolt on and some custom stuff.

Read about it here!
<<

matt.mcinnes

User avatar

Posts: 1590

Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:07 pm

Location: Tarneit, Vic

Post Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:42 pm

Can't say too much at present but TD42 integrated 4 core @ 35psi, 210rwkw flatlining intake temps 15C above ambient and still tuning.

More info due later this week.


Oh and the frozen boost we replaced will not be going back on :D
<<

coxy321

User avatar

Posts: 4330

Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:06 pm

Location: Central Victoria

Post Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:59 pm

matt.mcinnes wrote:Oh and the frozen boost we replaced will not be going back on :D

Due to failure or inefficiency?
<<

matt.mcinnes

User avatar

Posts: 1590

Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:07 pm

Location: Tarneit, Vic

Post Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:41 pm

coxy321 wrote:
matt.mcinnes wrote:Oh and the frozen boost we replaced will not be going back on :D

Due to failure or inefficiency?


The rig is running a new turbo and set up so I can't say, but the customer is far happier with results and is not putting the Frozen Boost back on. So make of that what you will.

At the end of the day you get what you pay for.
PreviousNext

Return to General Tech

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests

Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by ST Software.
eBay Sniper
Time : 0.130s | 13 Queries | GZIP : Off | Load : 0.17