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Post Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:14 am

I'm the bionic man

Sooooo............

In less than a week i'll be getting cut open, split in two, my spine stretched having a disc removed and a steel one put in its place.

After 7 years of physical misery i'm having a prosthetic artificial disc placed in my back, at the ripe old age of 38!

I'm both excited, scared shitless all at once. I've never even been under anaesthetic before let alone having my belly opened up and all the insides pushed to one side.

My private health insurance is about as high a level of cover as it's possible to get, costs 6k+ per annum, yet i'll still be out of pocket about 8k to thieving fucken doctors who print their own money. I know that without the cover it'd be far more for sure, but fuck for that level of cover it should be completely damn free. My surgeon is charging over 6k for a few hours work. Now i know it's a high risk job, and takes a lot of time to get there but hell, i could name similarly responsible jobs in my field where dozens of lives are in their hands and their daily rate is nowhere near that. Our health system is getting to be more of a joke every day
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:37 am

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Best move you will ever make.

Mum has had similar done at the age of 75 and has never looked back.

Only thing that you should do is EXACTLY as the doctor/physio says you should do. Don't expect a quick recovery - aint going to happen. Time x work is the equation.
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:46 am

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Good luck Milo. Hope it all goes well with a great outcome.

Thank the insurance companies for the exorbitant costs, and all the fuckers who put hands out for compensation everytime someone looks at them sideways.
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:57 am

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Don't forget you will also be able to claim some of the out of pocket expense through medicare, you wont get all back but you may get some more back.
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:07 am

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MARKx4 wrote:Don't forget you will also be able to claim some of the out of pocket expense through medicare, you wont get all back but you may get some more back.


Also if your out of pocket costs reach a certain threshold you can claim them on your tax ;)
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:05 am

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What price do you place on a reasonable lifestyle? Sadly, others (the Medicos and Insurers) seem to place a high price on it, but if that is you main choice, then you have to pay up and shut up. My wife is going through Ovarian Cancer and we don't know how long she has, or what the future lifestyle will be. If I could cash everything in and get success, I would do it in a flash. However, they cannot even offer a prediction at this stage.

I do sympathise with you on your plight. Hope everything goes OK for you.
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date wrote:What price do you place on a reasonable lifestyle? Sadly, others (the Medicos and Insurers) seem to place a high price on it, but if that is you main choice, then you have to pay up and shut up. My wife is going through Ovarian Cancer and we don't know how long she has, or what the future lifestyle will be. If I could cash everything in and get success, I would do it in a flash. However, they cannot even offer a prediction at this stage.

I do sympathize with you on your plight. Hope everything goes OK for you.


Sucks what you are going through date but you are right about throwing your cash at it to make things better if you can. My wife and myself threw close to 100k at procedures and all other things to have kids and we wont change a thing as our life i so much richer with them in our life.

Hope your wife has allot of luck and a great outcome in her fight.

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Post Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:08 pm

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date wrote:What price do you place on a reasonable lifestyle? Sadly, others (the Medicos and Insurers) seem to place a high price on it, but if that is you main choice, then you have to pay up and shut up. My wife is going through Ovarian Cancer and we don't know how long she has, or what the future lifestyle will be. If I could cash everything in and get success, I would do it in a flash. However, they cannot even offer a prediction at this stage.

I do sympathise with you on your plight. Hope everything goes OK for you.


For a known and guaranteed good outcome i'd pay whatever it took. Not happily but i'd pay it.
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:42 pm

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rockcrawler31 wrote: I know that without the cover it'd be far more for sure


Would it? My mother is having a hip replacement and it will cost her nothing as a public paitent.

It's not the only story I've heard regarding public/private health costs for the same operation.
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:32 pm

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Regarding costs for my wife's treatment, so far, it hasn't cost us very much at all. Major surgery was done at the Women's Hospital (Surgeon's choice, not ours), and that cost us nothing at all. The major costs we have incurred have been travelling to/from Canberra and Sydney for treatment, but if I had to drive back and forth every day, I would do it in a flash if it resolved the issues we are facing.

RockCrawler: Sorry to dump on you - I was a bit down at the time when I read your gripes.

I must add that in no way are we critical of the Medicos who have been treating my wife. They have been terriffic, but as yet have not been able to stop the advance of this horrid disease. It was slowed for a while, but has taken off again, hence the downer when you had your gripe.
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:53 pm

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oldmate wrote:
rockcrawler31 wrote: I know that without the cover it'd be far more for sure


Would it? My mother is having a hip replacement and it will cost her nothing as a public paitent.

It's not the only story I've heard regarding public/private health costs for the same operation.


But that all depens on the perceived needs or seriousness and waiting lists.

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Post Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:32 pm

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I do get the complaint about the costs but would do you think they pay a year insurance when they do surgery like you having done. They also don't get to that ability without a s##t load of training and brains.
And sorry claiming on tax doesn't apply to very many people now
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Post Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:52 am

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i'd be the first to concede that there is a level of insurance they have to pay, a huge amount of training, and risk.

However as a comparison

The guy who is the next step on the ladder to me is the site manager for the entire operation of a drill rig. He's responsible for the welfare of a multimillion dollar oil well and one mistake and that oil well is cactus. He's personally responsible for the welfare of over 20 -30 people on site and if any one of them hurts themself the buck stops directly with him, and every single 12 hour shift on that rig costs half a million bucks so if a mistake that takes three days to rectify - do the maths. Now it takes him the better part of ten to 15 years experience in the oil industry to get that job and as a contract manager supplies his own insurance and he gets paid $1500 per day. Compare that to my surgeon that charges me 6k for 6 hours work in theatre. Who on this planet is really worth 1k per hour??

It's not just doctors taking the piss. QC's and judges, CEO's, and similar grossly inflated professions that get my gripe when it comes to seriously taking the piss when it comes to wages compared to the common man (even your average university trained professional in charge of similar levels of responsibility like engineers or the like)

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The guy who is the next step on the ladder to me is the site manager for the entire operation of a drill rig. He's responsible for the welfare of a multimillion dollar oil well and one mistake and that oil well is cactus. He's personally responsible for the welfare of over 20 -30 people on site and if any one of them hurts themself the buck stops directly with him, and every single 12 hour shift on that rig costs half a million bucks so if a mistake that takes three days to rectify - do the maths. Now it takes him the better part of ten to 15 years experience in the oil industry to get that job and as a contract manager supplies his own insurance and he gets paid $1500 per day. Compare that to my surgeon that charges me 6k for 6 hours work in theatre. Who on this planet is really worth 1k per hour??


You CANNOT compare the 2 at all. I totally disagree with how much surgeons are paid in this country but the comparison is not there. Your site manager can go on lunch for an hour or take a sickie and that doesn't result in people automatically dying. Look at how many people die in surgery every year. It doesn't take much for something to go wrong.....not that it will though :)
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Post Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:45 am

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Jimbo wrote:
Look at how many people die in surgery every year. It doesn't take much for something to go wrong.....not that it will though :)


Lol :lol: :lol: :lol: Yeah thanks for that
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Post Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:47 am

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And no worries date, after having a chronic illness for so long i get how it can get you down, let alone how it makes a partner feel when you can't do much about it
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All of the above. If a person is doing a job specifically for the money, he/she is not the right person for that job. This applies to the senior people, not the battler who has no option at times other than to do a sh1t job. Any professional person who does the work solely for money is not properly motivated. I know that the Surgeon and all the associated staff who did the major work on my wife, the Oncologist who is managing her treatment and down to the nursing staff are ALL dedicated to their chosen profession. Sadly, most of those people are undervalued by modern society.

Of course, there is one major exception - Politicians. Even some of those people are dedicated to a cause, but generally their cause is very personally driven, but we are all well aware of that.
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Good luck with it all mate. My wife is a physio - and has done the rehab with patients, so she has passed on a lot.
She get angry when I lift bullbars etc by myself - for good reason I guess.
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Steer clear of the movie AWAKE
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So how'd ya go with it? :armsup: or :bad-words:

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I spoke to him yesterday and he seemed well and not requiring too much morphine. Might be a different story today :()
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:cool:

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Post Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:08 am

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Catheters!!!!! I woke up with one and had it out today. Farken yowie.

In a fair bit of pain but mostly surgical pain from the approach. Legs appear to be firing better than they were pre op
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Post Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:40 am

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Ready for your sponge bath? :D

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You know, insisting that they fly in specialist midgets to do every procedure would have added to the cost :finger:



Hope you're on the mend mate
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rockcrawler31 wrote:Catheters!!!!! I woke up with one and had it out today. Farken yowie.

In a fair bit of pain but mostly surgical pain from the approach. Legs appear to be firing better than they were pre op


Thank ya lucky stars you didn't try and pull it out yourself. :shock:

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