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def90



Joined: 16 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

just a quick question,

running a stroked 3.5, with 200TDi defender xfer and disco v8 ZF auto, 33's, curious as to what others' rpm's are at 100kph? and tyre sizes, etc. I'm sitting on around 2900ish.

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GRIMACE



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

that tcase has 1.4:1 highrange ???

my rangie only revs at about 2300-2400

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def90



Joined: 16 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

not sure grimace, thats why me be asking - thought it was a little high, thought one of the more 'informed' members (to help the lesser - me)could deduce what my xfer ratios were, being a 86' fender 200 TDi?

anyone?

are you running 31's grimace? and WhenTF are you going to pull ya finger out and build your rig The Finger The Finger

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1986 - 90 defender soft top, bars, buttons and tyres
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GRIMACE



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

def90 wrote:
not sure grimace, thats why me be asking - thought it was a little high, thought one of the more 'informed' members (to help the lesser - me)could deduce what my xfer ratios were, being a 86' fender 200 TDi?

anyone?

are you running 31's grimace? and WhenTF are you going to pull ya finger out and build your rig The Finger The Finger


I am running huge 29s Laughing

when my rovertym gear arrives Wink

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Aquarangie



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

With my 90 Rangie, 3.9 EFI nothing special, fitted with 4.11's and 285/75r16 MT/R's I get @2100 at 100 kph. I also run the stock BW T/case which IICR the ratio in high range is 1.18;1 I think Question

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cpmurray



Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Location: Bentleigh VIC

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:47 am Reply with quote Back to top

def90 wrote:
thought it was a little high, thought one of the more 'informed' members (to help the lesser - me)could deduce what my xfer ratios were, being a 86' fender 200 TDi?


Well considoring there is no such thing as an 86 defender (The Defender was not released until 1989/1990), and the 200 TDi didn't come out till the Discovery was released in about 1989, it must have been either a 2.5 diesel or 2.5 Turbo diesel. All 4 cylinder Land Rovers (Except for isuzu) were fitted with a 1.6:1 high range transfer case, but even then your RPM sounds a little high. My 84 90 with 1.6:1 LT230 with an LT77 gearbox sits on 2500 RPM at 100 kph, and that is with 255/85R16's. I confirmed the speed with my sisters standard Rangie.

Anyway hope this helps a little.

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def90



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

cpmurray wrote:
def90 wrote:
thought it was a little high, thought one of the more 'informed' members (to help the lesser - me)could deduce what my xfer ratios were, being a 86' fender 200 TDi?


Well considoring there is no such thing as an 86 defender (The Defender was not released until 1989/1990), and the 200 TDi didn't come out till the Discovery was released in about 1989, it must have been either a 2.5 diesel or 2.5 Turbo diesel. All 4 cylinder Land Rovers (Except for isuzu) were fitted with a 1.6:1 high range transfer case, but even then your RPM sounds a little high. My 84 90 with 1.6:1 LT230 with an LT77 gearbox sits on 2500 RPM at 100 kph, and that is with 255/85R16's. I confirmed the speed with my sisters standard Rangie.

Anyway hope this helps a little.



well it has defender badges on it and is a 1986 - private import, obviously. although i must be wrong, was just presuming someone hadn't gone to the trouble of putting factory stickers on it.

it may not have been a 200 tdi then, i was just told (haven't really even thought about it) that the original motor was a 200 TDi. it did have a LT77 before the ZF too.

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1986 - 90 defender soft top, bars, buttons and tyres
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oops



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah I was wondering what others are getting as well. Mine being an 88 4.2 stroker with zf and Lt230 transfer and 33's sits at about 1800 at 100km/h. Stupid thing kicks into 4th gear at 80km/h then it does 1100 rpm and is gutless. I think im actuall getting worse fuel consumption cause it revs to low, and need wider throttle openings to keep going. Mind you it sits at 120-130 comfortably and pulls up hills better. I was told it also has 4.11, but can't confirm.
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Loanrangie



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

def90 wrote:
cpmurray wrote:
def90 wrote:
thought it was a little high, thought one of the more 'informed' members (to help the lesser - me)could deduce what my xfer ratios were, being a 86' fender 200 TDi?


Well considoring there is no such thing as an 86 defender (The Defender was not released until 1989/1990), and the 200 TDi didn't come out till the Discovery was released in about 1989, it must have been either a 2.5 diesel or 2.5 Turbo diesel. All 4 cylinder Land Rovers (Except for isuzu) were fitted with a 1.6:1 high range transfer case, but even then your RPM sounds a little high. My 84 90 with 1.6:1 LT230 with an LT77 gearbox sits on 2500 RPM at 100 kph, and that is with 255/85R16's. I confirmed the speed with my sisters standard Rangie.

Anyway hope this helps a little.



well it has defender badges on it and is a 1986 - private import, obviously. although i must be wrong, was just presuming someone hadn't gone to the trouble of putting factory stickers on it.

it may not have been a 200 tdi then, i was just told (haven't really even thought about it) that the original motor was a 200 TDi. it did have a LT77 before the ZF too.


Something has just tired to pretty it up with the deffy stickers, the engine as Craig said would have been either a 2.5 NA or 2.5 turbo diesel or even an asthmatic 4cyl petrol that the poms liked to use - even the early disco's were optioned with a 2ltr MPI petrol motor Rolling Eyes

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Mark2



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

oops wrote:
Yeah I was wondering what others are getting as well. Mine being an 88 4.2 stroker with zf and Lt230 transfer and 33's sits at about 1800 at 100km/h. Stupid thing kicks into 4th gear at 80km/h then it does 1100 rpm and is gutless. I think im actuall getting worse fuel consumption cause it revs to low, and need wider throttle openings to keep going. Mind you it sits at 120-130 comfortably and pulls up hills better. I was told it also has 4.11, but can't confirm.


1800 sounds a bit low for a small engine pushing a brick with lots of drivetrain friction - would be surprised if it had 4.11's - had a play with your numbers on my gearing spreadsheet and my money would be on std gearing eg 3.54's.

My stroker is doing about 2500 with 31's and LT95. I wouldnt want it be reving much less but you can get away with taller gearing with an auto.
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def90



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:14 am Reply with quote Back to top

cpmurray wrote:
def90 wrote:
thought it was a little high, thought one of the more 'informed' members (to help the lesser - me)could deduce what my xfer ratios were, being a 86' fender 200 TDi?


Well considoring there is no such thing as an 86 defender (The Defender was not released until 1989/1990), and the 200 TDi didn't come out till the Discovery was released in about 1989, it must have been either a 2.5 diesel or 2.5 Turbo diesel. All 4 cylinder Land Rovers (Except for isuzu) were fitted with a 1.6:1 high range transfer case, but even then your RPM sounds a little high. My 84 90 with 1.6:1 LT230 with an LT77 gearbox sits on 2500 RPM at 100 kph, and that is with 255/85R16's. I confirmed the speed with my sisters standard Rangie.

Anyway hope this helps a little.


my bad its actually registered as a '88, but private import plate says its an '87, i thought the defenders were the first with the push button style handles, not the flush lift up style like countys? VIN: SALLDVAB7AA310881

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1986 - Stage 1 V8 serIII style side ute - gone
1997 - 300 TDI 130 single cab ute - gone
1986 - 90 defender soft top, bars, buttons and tyres
2000 - TD5 disco to become the 'tourer'
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cpmurray



Joined: 10 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:19 am Reply with quote Back to top

def90 wrote:
cpmurray wrote:
def90 wrote:
thought it was a little high, thought one of the more 'informed' members (to help the lesser - me)could deduce what my xfer ratios were, being a 86' fender 200 TDi?


Well considoring there is no such thing as an 86 defender (The Defender was not released until 1989/1990), and the 200 TDi didn't come out till the Discovery was released in about 1989, it must have been either a 2.5 diesel or 2.5 Turbo diesel. All 4 cylinder Land Rovers (Except for isuzu) were fitted with a 1.6:1 high range transfer case, but even then your RPM sounds a little high. My 84 90 with 1.6:1 LT230 with an LT77 gearbox sits on 2500 RPM at 100 kph, and that is with 255/85R16's. I confirmed the speed with my sisters standard Rangie.

Anyway hope this helps a little.


my bad its actually registered as a '88, but private import plate says its an '87, i thought the defenders were the first with the push button style handles, not the flush lift up style like countys? VIN: SALLDVAB7AA310881


No, the Land Rover was renamed the Defender in 1990. My brother and parents both have 1989 Land Rover 110 Counties and my brother in law has a 1988 Land Rover 110 County. I'd actually be thankful that it is not a Defender, as that is when things started to go down hill. The body panels on a Defender are made out of thinner aluminum than a Land Rover just to name one of the changes that was made.

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def90



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:20 pm Reply with quote Back to top

cheers craig, thanks for the insight. never thought that much about it, but at least now i know.

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cpmurray



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:42 am Reply with quote Back to top

No worries. I'm used to people being confused, as I'm always having to explain that my 90 in not a Defender and not a County!

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