falcon / lancruiser conversion

Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Location: maitland

Does anyone know of a 4.0 falcon motor being fitted to a landcruiser in place of a worn out 1hz .There is a adaptor plate that has recently been developed.Just wondering how they would go.

Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: GREENBANK

id go a newer ba or bf motor they go like a zertec would go for the xr6 turbo motor easy power to be made

Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Location: Melb. AU

AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:

they go like a zertec

How does a "zertek" go???

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: FNQ.......Townsville

How do you get around the prob of the smartshield / immobiliser when using a AU or BA motor?

Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Location: campbelltown

Sixty wrote:

How do you get around the prob of the smartshield / immobiliser when using a AU or BA motor?

after market computer

Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Location: Ipswich

Ba xr6 turbo fairly torquey motor should go alright in a cruiser.

Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Location: maitland

hdj105 wrote:

AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:

they go like a zertec

How does a "zertek" go???

What is a zertek and how do they go

Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Location: maitland

Nat84 wrote:

Sixty wrote:

How do you get around the prob of the smartshield / immobiliser when using a AU or BA motor?

after market computer

where would you go to get an after market computer that would do this job

Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Location: campbelltown

ashemma wrote:

Nat84 wrote:

Sixty wrote:

How do you get around the prob of the smartshield / immobiliser when using a AU or BA motor?

after market computer

where would you go to get an after market computer that would do this job

http://www.motec.com.au/home

http://www.enginemanagementsystem.com/frameindex.htm

http://www.microtech-efi.com/

http://www.fueltech.com.au/auto_haltech.html

http://www.wolfems.com.au/

Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Location: wodonga

use the factory computer and plug in a body control module eliminator. Most good auto electricians that know efi should be able to supply.

Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: GREENBANK

you can use the factory pcm for this application seen it done on a ac cobr running a 290 gt engine grab a workshop manual and ask around its not that hard

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

ashemma wrote:

Does anyone know of a 4.0 falcon motor being fitted to a landcruiser in place of a worn out 1hz .There is a adaptor plate that has recently been developed.Just wondering how they would go.

Castlemain rod shop does a conversion for it.

bang for buck, an E series 4.0 litre, or AU one would have more than enough torque. BA - BF is harder and spendier.

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: out back aus

i am doing ford ef 4.0 in to a fully rebuilt 60 series box to 75 serier diffs in a old 1968 fj45 .dellows kit .

Joined: 21 May 2004 Location: Brisbane North

madjimmy wrote:

i am doing ford ef 4.0 in to a fully rebuilt 60 series box to 75 serier diffs in a old 1968 fj45 .dellows kit .

I did the same into a 40 using 60 box. Nice and easy. There is a by-pass box you can get to get around smartlock. Not so simple with Smartshield on AUII onwards.

Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Location: nsw

if you are going to all the effort why wouldnt you put a v8 in Question

rob

Joined: 21 May 2004 Location: Brisbane North

75 cruser wrote:

if you are going to all the effort why wouldnt you put a v8 in Question

rob

Can't speak for everyone but for me, cost was a big factor.

Buy an EF 6cyl for $600 all day every day at the wreckers, if you're lucky you can pick up a whole vehicle for that money (I did) and sell off what you don't need. The best bit is you can usually just throw the motor in as is, change a few welch plugs, seals etc and call it good. If and when it dies you just go grab another motor for $600. Factory engine management, efi, etc. Excellent bang for buck if all you need is reliability and a good power up without the driveline issues.

Buy a v8 for anything under a grand and 9 times out of 10 its going to need a rebuild. Rebuilds are exy depending on whats needed. Good option if you want big power numbers and that sexy exhaust rumble but be prepared to upgrade driveline to suit the power.

For me it was the right choice as a low cost AND hassle free option when the 2F died. Not saying I'm against a V8 conversion, a V8 would rock, I just don't need one. Along the same lines as the hilux boys opting for the 3rz-fe engine instead of the popular 1uz-fe and other V8 swaps.

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

75 cruser wrote:

if you are going to all the effort why wouldnt you put a v8 in Question

rob

i'l be a tad less diplomatic than Ray...

V8's are shit. Very Happy

bang for buck, the falcon 6's walk all over the 8's. nice long stroke = offroad torque.

Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Location: Ipswich

bad_religion_au wrote:

bang for buck, the falcon 6's walk all over the 8's. nice long stroke = offroad torque.

plus you get good practice changing head gaskets Very Happy

all in all there not a bad motor also having the 2 intake runners depending on engine load helps with torque aswell.

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

Sic Lux wrote:

bad_religion_au wrote:

bang for buck, the falcon 6's walk all over the 8's. nice long stroke = offroad torque.

plus you get good practice changing head gaskets Very Happy

all in all there not a bad motor also having the 2 intake runners depending on engine load helps with torque aswell.

what, every 200 000k's, IF you don't use AU gaskets when you do it the first time? not really "all the time" Very Happy

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: FNQ.......Townsville

RAY185 wrote:

75 cruser wrote:

if you are going to all the effort why wouldnt you put a v8 in Question

rob

Can't speak for everyone but for me, cost was a big factor.

Buy an EF 6cyl for $600 all day every day at the wreckers, if you're lucky you can pick up a whole vehicle for that money (I did) and sell off what you don't need. The best bit is you can usually just throw the motor in as is, change a few welch plugs, seals etc and call it good. If and when it dies you just go grab another motor for $600. Factory engine management, efi, etc. Excellent bang for buck if all you need is reliability and a good power up without the driveline issues.

Buy a v8 for anything under a grand and 9 times out of 10 its going to need a rebuild. Rebuilds are exy depending on whats needed. Good option if you want big power numbers and that sexy exhaust rumble but be prepared to upgrade driveline to suit the power.

For me it was the right choice as a low cost AND hassle free option when the 2F died. Not saying I'm against a V8 conversion, a V8 would rock, I just don't need one. Along the same lines as the hilux boys opting for the 3rz-fe engine instead of the popular 1uz-fe and other V8 swaps.

Ray
Did use you a motor out of an auto or manual?
If it was an auto box, was there any hassles with excess solenoids/vacumn switches etc?
Im looking at putting one in front of a 84 HJ60 4 speed box....

Joined: 21 May 2004 Location: Brisbane North

Yep, mine was out of an auto so you will need to buy a falcon flywheel and pressure plate if you're using the Dellows clutch that comes in the kit.

No problems with vac solenoids or switches. The transmission harness conveniently unclips from the main harness and I just blanked off any vacuum ports to do with the transmission and heater controls.

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: FNQ.......Townsville

Thanks Ray.
Sounds like it may be cheaper and easier job than I thought Very Happy

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: out back aus

ray did you use all the loom like dash ,fuses and the steering wheel.

Joined: 21 May 2004 Location: Brisbane North

madjimmy wrote:

ray did you use all the loom like dash ,fuses and the steering wheel.

No, alot of the loom, particularly the dash loom was deleted. I didn't wire it, I had a sparky do it. All the engine, fan, fuel pump etc relays were retained in the wiring. Certainly didn't use the steering wheel. Laughing

Buildup thread here: http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic124039.php&highlight=

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: out back aus

ray185, I am going to try and use the steering wheel and the lot as well ase the speedo to try and make it a easy conversion. I used a dellows kit.
what I need is a speedo cable from a 60 series gearbox to a ford ef 96 dash, can any one help????? please jimmy.

Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Location: campbelltown

that model ford did not have a cable it was electronice

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: out back aus

yes thats right , but I need is the cable from a 60 series box to a electronic ford dash,
does anyone make this?????????.

Joined: 21 May 2004 Location: Brisbane North

I think you'll need to speak to an instrument specialist about that one but if you're trying to make it an easy conversion you're definately going the hard way about it.

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: out back aus

hi ray185 con you show me a shot of your belt after you took off the a/c iam up to the same point

p.s i found a speedo adapater that plugs into the ford loom and fits my 75 series box. autobarn.

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: out back aus

and also what did you do about the oil filter,

cheers jimmy